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Post by sugarclouds on Oct 26, 2012 23:55:36 GMT -5
In the preview for next episode he also looked very worried!!! OT3 IS AWESOME also, nathan should shoot stuff all the TIME! Yep he does. Next episode I won't watch live because I am out of town. Will look for comfort later  Also, rewatched the kiss scene...OMG Nathan Wuornos what you do to me. ME TOO i dont get to watch live and it sucks!! i'll need a blanket later |
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Post by valfromrome on Oct 26, 2012 23:57:03 GMT -5
Yep he does. Next episode I won't watch live because I am out of town. Will look for comfort later Also, rewatched the kiss scene...OMG Nathan Wuornos what you do to me. ME TOO i dont get to watch live and it sucks!! i'll need a blanket later We'll hug and comfort later together |
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Post by dordoris on Oct 27, 2012 0:14:19 GMT -5
Okay, it's probably too late now, but I can write some things.
I feel bad for everybody there. I feel bad for Jordan, because now she needs to die. I don't see another way out. And I do like her, but now if Nathan just dumps her out of nowhere, he will be the jerk some girls are taking him for. I understand that he is relating to her because of her trouble, but he can't just be in love with Audrey and then not. I can't believe he is doing that, I'm sorry, but I don't think normal that he "changed" his mind like this.
I don't like the way Audrey confronted Nathan at the end. She did just like last week's episode, she started a conversation and then "ok" and took off.
Nathan is not pissing me off, though, I just don't know what is he thinking. He's confused too, I guess, but his actions are hurting people. It is hurting Audrey and eventually will hurt Jordan.
I had more to say, but I forgot. I literally cried at the end, guys. I'm that idiot...
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Post by valfromrome on Oct 27, 2012 0:25:37 GMT -5
Okay, it's probably too late now, but I can write some things. I feel bad for everybody there. I feel bad for Jordan, because now she needs to die. I don't see another way out. And I do like her, but now if Nathan just dumps her out of nowhere, he will be the jerk some girls are taking him for. I understand that he is relating to her because of her trouble, but he can't just be in love with Audrey and then not. I can't believe he is doing that, I'm sorry, but I don't think normal that he "changed" his mind like this. I don't like the way Audrey confronted Nathan at the end. She did just like last week's episode, she started a conversation and then "ok" and took off. Nathan is not pissing me off, though, I just don't know what is he thinking. He's confused too, I guess, but his actions are hurting people. It is hurting Audrey and eventually will hurt Jordan. I had more to say, but I forgot. I literally cried at the end, guys. I'm that idiot... yes he is hurting people and people arre hurting him. I think he has been hurt by people for all his life. Audrey is hurting him badly and why he is accountable for his actions, Audrey pushed him in a corner and she doesn't see how dangerous this can be for her and for Nathan. As for Jordan, I feel bad for her but I am pretty sure she knows that there is something going on between Nathan and Jordan. Also, I think she gets what he is going through right now. I don't think Nathan is hurting Jordan on purpose (as Audrey is actually doing with him and you could see that he tried to tell her how he was feeling), he is just starting to feel something different. I wanted to see this happening, because once he gets back to Audrey, he has to be convinced of what he feels and this is the reason I don't want Jordan to die. I want her to live and Nathan to realize that he might feel affection and attraction, even love but not the one he feels for Audrey. |
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Post by madamemonday on Oct 27, 2012 0:37:09 GMT -5
yes he is hurting people and people arre hurting him. I think he has been hurt by people for all his life. It's a throwback to what the Chief said... he said he wanted to hurt/kill (I don't remember which) Max Hansen for hurting Nathan as a child. At this point, it's ingrained in Nathan so deeply in his subconscious that it's involuntary. You hurt him and that's it, he's not going to trust you, you're now a threat. He's the abused kid that if you raise your hand in just the right way, he's going to flinch and shield himself from a blow. and Audrey is SO raining those blows down upon him currently. |
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Post by dordoris on Oct 27, 2012 0:42:05 GMT -5
I wanted to see this happening, because once he gets back to Audrey, he has to be convinced of what he feels and this is the reason I don't want Jordan to die. I want her to live and Nathan to realize that he might feel affection and attraction, even love but not the one he feels for Audrey. That is the thing. I don't understand him anymore. Last week I thought I did, now I don't know. I don't want him to have a relationship with Jordan because he doesn't love her, he is leaning on her. That's not right and it will hurt them (all of them) so badly that I don't know if they will be able to heal. |
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Post by dordoris on Oct 27, 2012 0:45:05 GMT -5
It can't be just forgotten that Audrey is trying to protect him, she's is being cruel only to be kind
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Post by valfromrome on Oct 27, 2012 0:45:41 GMT -5
yes he is hurting people and people arre hurting him. I think he has been hurt by people for all his life. It's a throwback to what the Chief said... he said he wanted to hurt/kill (I don't remember which) Max Hansen for hurting Nathan as a child. At this point, it's ingrained in Nathan so deeply in his subconscious that it's involuntary. You hurt him and that's it, he's not going to trust you, you're now a threat. He's the abused kid that if you raise your hand in just the right way, he's going to flinch and shield himself from a blow. and Audrey is SO raining those blows down upon him currently. You killed me with your perfect description of Nathan deepest and hidden subconscious. You are just like Erin, you get Nathan and the reasons behind his actions. |
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Post by valfromrome on Oct 27, 2012 0:54:25 GMT -5
It can be just forgotten that Audrey is trying to protect him, she's is being cruel only to be kind Also Nathan started all of this to help and save her. He wants this more than anything else...then Jordan happened and he finally felt understood in a way he has never felt before. Relationships start out of love, attraction, tender loving care. they are not just epic since the beginning. What I see is Nathan feeling something for Jordan and wanting to understand what it is. IMO Nathan is questioning himself about why he felt for Audrey in the first place. Is just because he can feel her? If yes this would be wrong and it's good Nathan finds out that he loves Audrey because of who she is and not for what he feels. Does he feel for Jordan because he can give her comfort or because he really enjoy her company? I get it's rushed, but it's only a 13 episodes season...they need to get straight to the core of the story. I feel like Jordan is pivotal for Nathan to understand what he really wants and feels. Basically Jordan is who Nathan was when he first met Audrey...vulnerable, unsure, reserved. I guess hurt and/or broken ares the right words to describe both of them. You shouldn't let me ramble so much!!! |
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Post by madamemonday on Oct 27, 2012 0:56:14 GMT -5
It's a throwback to what the Chief said... he said he wanted to hurt/kill (I don't remember which) Max Hansen for hurting Nathan as a child. At this point, it's ingrained in Nathan so deeply in his subconscious that it's involuntary. You hurt him and that's it, he's not going to trust you, you're now a threat. He's the abused kid that if you raise your hand in just the right way, he's going to flinch and shield himself from a blow. and Audrey is SO raining those blows down upon him currently. You killed me with your perfect description of Nathan deepest and hidden subconscious. You are just like Erin, you get Nathan and the reasons behind his actions. You seriously have no idea how many hours the two of us have spent over iMessage and AIM picking him apart.  It's honestly because of her that I've been able to get inside his head at all. |
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Post by valfromrome on Oct 27, 2012 1:00:22 GMT -5
You killed me with your perfect description of Nathan deepest and hidden subconscious. You are just like Erin, you get Nathan and the reasons behind his actions. You seriously have no idea how many hours the two of us have spent over iMessage and AIM picking him apart. It's honestly because of her that I've been able to get inside his head at all. I believe you because it's what I do with my TVD/Damon and Supernatural/Dean friends. Sometimes we get them better than the creators |
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Post by sugarclouds on Oct 27, 2012 1:10:12 GMT -5
It can be just forgotten that Audrey is trying to protect him, she's is being cruel only to be kind Also Nathan started all of this to help and save her. He wants this more than anything else...then Jordan happened and he finally felt understood in a way he has never felt before. Relationships start out of love, attraction, tender loving care. they are not just epic since the beginning. What I see is Nathan feeling something for Jordan and wanting to understand what it is. IMO Nathan is questioning himself about why he felt for Audrey in the first place. Is just because he can feel her? If yes this would be wrong and it's good Nathan finds out that he loves Audrey because of who she is and not for what he feels. Does he feel for Jordan because he can give her comfort or because he really enjoy her company? I get it's rushed, but it's only a 13 episodes season...they need to get straight to the core of the story. I feel like Jordan is pivotal for Nathan to understand what he really wants and feels. Basically Jordan is who Nathan was when he first met Audrey...vulnerable, unsure, reserved. I guess hurt and/or broken ares the right words to describe both of them. You shouldn't let me ramble so much!!! Everything you just said Jordan is definitely pivotal for the nathan/audrey relationship, he started everything as a way of protecting audrey, who up until she shut him out, was the biggest part of his life, everything he did revolved around her, just think of everything he did last season to get her Lucy's adress, hired a PI and everything, it all revolved around her and they were finally getting somewhere but she went all hero on him and to protect him she, unfortunately had to hurt him where it MOST hurt him, HER! and the fact that he can feel her, so stubborn as he is, he went into the guard to find more things to help audrey, but then came a point in which he started developing feelings for this new person he can relate and all and I think he knows deep down that he will never LOVE jordan the way he LOVES audrey, but she closed the door and refused to reopen it, so he's leaning towards what he feels is the right thing, he still wants to catch a serial killer because he is still inLOVE with audrey but he also has feelings for someone else and now he needs to realize that what he feels for Jordan is so different than what he feels for audrey, just like audrey did with chris brody, she couldn't help him be himself, i think nathan will realize he is helping Jordan be herself again just because he is immune to her trouble like audrey was immune to chris... and in the end it will bring them closer. sorry of this doesnt make any sense its really late, but i cant fall asleep |
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Post by e@n on Oct 27, 2012 1:15:21 GMT -5
When Lucy was talking to the Kid did anyone else think that was Nathan?! I swear I expected Nathan to turn ard cuz the Kid sounded sooo much like Nathan (to me anyway in my bleariness and dark stream)
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Post by dordoris on Oct 27, 2012 1:21:07 GMT -5
That's exactly my point, he loves Audrey. I don't think it's right going after a girl who can only touch him feeling the way he does about another person. He can't play like this, it's not a game, he cannot resets his actions.
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Post by dordoris on Oct 27, 2012 1:21:40 GMT -5
When Lucy was talking to the Kid did anyone else think that was Nathan?! I swear I expected Nathan to turn ard cuz the Kid sounded sooo much like Nathan (to me anyway in my bleariness and dark stream) I did too, even his profile reminded me of Nathan |
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It's honestly because of her that I've been able to get inside his head at all.